pd_recapturing
10-17 10:13 AM
I have got a PM from another IV member whose 485 got denied yesterday because of 140 revocation. He switched the job after 180 days and sent AC21 docs as well. He is willing to share his ordeal with us.
Are we sending personal exp of the ppl affected along with the letter ? I guess, it makes perfect sense to send some real 485 denial examples.
Are we sending personal exp of the ppl affected along with the letter ? I guess, it makes perfect sense to send some real 485 denial examples.
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learning01
04-26 12:18 PM
I believe, that was the bone of contention when LK Advani visited USA in 2003 ( I think I read it in Times of India) when India sought the return of SS Tax and Medicare Tax collected from H1B holders who returned to India. I believe it amounts to USD 700 million to USD 1 billion.
US linked the discussion SS tax return to Indian Police and Military participation in peace keeping in Iraq after US war on terror in Iraq. US insisted that they will return the money to a similar SS system, if India institutes one. US could not win support from world nations (and India) because of this use of (I don't know the term), call it 'link it to something that cannot be done'. You know what I mean.
Many such policies need to be straightened out. It is a simple fact and nothing complicated about it. Don't collect SS tax and Medicare if the temporary worker is from a country to which US cannot repatriate the money, for whatever reason.
We all can visualize what difference the return of that 'sweat money' would have meant to the effort on the war on terror. Pure success.
When you apply for permanent residency in a developed country, you have to cover certain criteria and then you get the approval prior to entering the country. This criteria may include job invitation from a local company (New Zealand recent approach) etc but the point is that the relationship between the potential immigrant and the country-recipient are clear.
The situation in the US is different - you come here to work temporarily only and you must state that you will return back upon expiration on your visa. On the other hand, there is an option to apply for permanent residence but it is not guaranteed - it is only a possibility.
OK, I can live whit this approach. But when applying for a GC and would like to BE ABLE TO GET REPLY IN A RESONABLE PERIOD OF TIME - 2-3 months, not 3-4 years ! If approved, I would like to BE ABLE TO GET MY GC IN A REASONABLE PERIOD OF TIME - 6-12 months, not another 5-6 years ! Than I can take a decision what to do and where to go.
I also do not mind to pay for SS and Medicare. That is OK as long as I get these money back if I do not became a permanent resident/citizen of this country. And I should get it back with an average market interest rate for those 6-7 years. Same if I would have invested them in bonds or so.
That is a fair approach ! Why I have to state that I am coming here temporarily only and then be forced to pay for SS and Medicare ? Because I am retarded and do not understand what is going on ?!
US linked the discussion SS tax return to Indian Police and Military participation in peace keeping in Iraq after US war on terror in Iraq. US insisted that they will return the money to a similar SS system, if India institutes one. US could not win support from world nations (and India) because of this use of (I don't know the term), call it 'link it to something that cannot be done'. You know what I mean.
Many such policies need to be straightened out. It is a simple fact and nothing complicated about it. Don't collect SS tax and Medicare if the temporary worker is from a country to which US cannot repatriate the money, for whatever reason.
We all can visualize what difference the return of that 'sweat money' would have meant to the effort on the war on terror. Pure success.
When you apply for permanent residency in a developed country, you have to cover certain criteria and then you get the approval prior to entering the country. This criteria may include job invitation from a local company (New Zealand recent approach) etc but the point is that the relationship between the potential immigrant and the country-recipient are clear.
The situation in the US is different - you come here to work temporarily only and you must state that you will return back upon expiration on your visa. On the other hand, there is an option to apply for permanent residence but it is not guaranteed - it is only a possibility.
OK, I can live whit this approach. But when applying for a GC and would like to BE ABLE TO GET REPLY IN A RESONABLE PERIOD OF TIME - 2-3 months, not 3-4 years ! If approved, I would like to BE ABLE TO GET MY GC IN A REASONABLE PERIOD OF TIME - 6-12 months, not another 5-6 years ! Than I can take a decision what to do and where to go.
I also do not mind to pay for SS and Medicare. That is OK as long as I get these money back if I do not became a permanent resident/citizen of this country. And I should get it back with an average market interest rate for those 6-7 years. Same if I would have invested them in bonds or so.
That is a fair approach ! Why I have to state that I am coming here temporarily only and then be forced to pay for SS and Medicare ? Because I am retarded and do not understand what is going on ?!
ItIsNotFunny
03-12 03:46 PM
I already did. I just dont like this DONOR based thread idea.
Appreciate it. Lets not use hard language and insult each other. Keep in mind, united we stand.
Appreciate it. Lets not use hard language and insult each other. Keep in mind, united we stand.
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shana04
09-25 09:28 AM
All the info here is great !!
Pardon my ingnorance, but if I wanted to start a small time business where I do website development and designing either myself or by a company outside US, do I need to file as an LLC or can I register as a small business. Can someone tell me where I might get details for registering a company (Or is that same as LLC).
I was thinking I will not get EAD earlier than 6 months and I got it in less than 6 weeks....so now am doing some basic ground work and would appreciate any guidance !!
Thanks in advance.
Congrats on getting your GC (EAD)
Pardon my ingnorance, but if I wanted to start a small time business where I do website development and designing either myself or by a company outside US, do I need to file as an LLC or can I register as a small business. Can someone tell me where I might get details for registering a company (Or is that same as LLC).
I was thinking I will not get EAD earlier than 6 months and I got it in less than 6 weeks....so now am doing some basic ground work and would appreciate any guidance !!
Thanks in advance.
Congrats on getting your GC (EAD)
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spicy_guy
09-01 01:13 PM
Landed in Feb 2000 ....
1. 1st employer cheated me on GC-Labor in 2003 - sold/substituted my labor to some lucky fellow.
2. 2nd employer filed GC-Labor in Mar 05 (really) but silently did it in in EB3 it took 2 yrs for Labor and almost 2 yrs for I-140 in Jan 2009 and by that time recession has hit us.
3. 3rd employer trying a EB2 upgrade by a new PERM Labor in Dec 2010 - the employer seems better than 1 and 2 but don't know until i get it at hand :)
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1. 1st employer cheated me on GC-Labor in 2003 - sold/substituted my labor to some lucky fellow.
2. 2nd employer filed GC-Labor in Mar 05 (really) but silently did it in in EB3 it took 2 yrs for Labor and almost 2 yrs for I-140 in Jan 2009 and by that time recession has hit us.
3. 3rd employer trying a EB2 upgrade by a new PERM Labor in Dec 2010 - the employer seems better than 1 and 2 but don't know until i get it at hand :)
All Desi employers?
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virald
09-11 04:41 PM
I don't understand how they calculate PD dates?
Can anyone help me here please?
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You just asked the million dollar question. I can tell you with close to a certainty that no one here can give you a 100% correct answer.
Can anyone help me here please?
Thanks
You just asked the million dollar question. I can tell you with close to a certainty that no one here can give you a 100% correct answer.
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anilsal
09-30 11:40 PM
My EB3 PD is Oct 2003. I-140 approved and I-485 ND is July24th.when can i expect to get the green card?. thanks in advance.
The sad part is that some applicants who missed the boat called BEC with PD of around June 2004 on EB3/India got approved in June end/July time frame. I did see this on some forums external to IV.
I think there may be candidates from 2001/2002/2003 who may have applied in June/July 07. But if the rumors of NSC processing RD wise (as seen on some forum posts outside IV), then it is unfair to these people, because there may be others who missed the BEC boat and are ahead of these folks coming out of BEC.
The sad part is that some applicants who missed the boat called BEC with PD of around June 2004 on EB3/India got approved in June end/July time frame. I did see this on some forums external to IV.
I think there may be candidates from 2001/2002/2003 who may have applied in June/July 07. But if the rumors of NSC processing RD wise (as seen on some forum posts outside IV), then it is unfair to these people, because there may be others who missed the BEC boat and are ahead of these folks coming out of BEC.
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smuggymba
08-12 12:51 PM
Imagine what would have happened if they put a fraud fee to every employer caught employing an undocumented. It would have helped reduce undocumented crossing and employed by US employers but also used the same money from fraud penalty to secure the borders.
On the money Pappu. Why not charge employers who employ un-documented....instead of 600 million, US might get 6 billion.
On the money Pappu. Why not charge employers who employ un-documented....instead of 600 million, US might get 6 billion.
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09-09 11:41 AM
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I feel good after making the contribution. Hopefully, several others will join this contribution drive and experience this good feeling first hand.
Good luck to all.
I feel good after making the contribution. Hopefully, several others will join this contribution drive and experience this good feeling first hand.
Good luck to all.
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eagerr2i
07-12 06:54 PM
Is there a SoCal IV member list? Any one from San diego?
there is a list that I maintained. pls pm me and I can send it to u.
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SouthSky
06-02 12:50 PM
My PD EB3 01/15/2005
Applied I140 PP 05/18/2007
Approved I140 05/23/2007
Man I am screwed
I received good news on June 1, 2007 that my I-140 is approved. It was received by USCIS on May 22, 2007. Then later that day I saw the new immigration bill. If this very unreasonable bill (EB backlog) will be passed the wasting of all the money, time, stress, anxiety and hope towards the GC procedure will make the whole thing look like a bitter joke. This is beyong my wildest imagination on how bad things can go since we are all hard-working and law-abiding legal immigrants. Is it a punishment for being a good member of society?
I'm praying that it will not be given any consideration by those who have powers.
Applied I140 PP 05/18/2007
Approved I140 05/23/2007
Man I am screwed
I received good news on June 1, 2007 that my I-140 is approved. It was received by USCIS on May 22, 2007. Then later that day I saw the new immigration bill. If this very unreasonable bill (EB backlog) will be passed the wasting of all the money, time, stress, anxiety and hope towards the GC procedure will make the whole thing look like a bitter joke. This is beyong my wildest imagination on how bad things can go since we are all hard-working and law-abiding legal immigrants. Is it a punishment for being a good member of society?
I'm praying that it will not be given any consideration by those who have powers.
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GooblyWoobly
08-11 02:01 AM
I think the monday deadline makes sense. See, USCIS said they are going to issue the receipting update every week. Last week's update said, 7/1/2007 for EB cases at Nebraska. How would you think it would look if, after a whole week, USCIS issues another update, with the same date. Embarrassing, Eh?
So, since they have to issue the update on Friday, they put this deadline. However, they probably realize that it's not possible for them to issue receipts of all July 2nd filers by Friday, so, they move the internal deadline to Monday. That's probably the reason they did not issue a receipting update today.
Just putting two and two together.
So, since they have to issue the update on Friday, they put this deadline. However, they probably realize that it's not possible for them to issue receipts of all July 2nd filers by Friday, so, they move the internal deadline to Monday. That's probably the reason they did not issue a receipting update today.
Just putting two and two together.
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AMKumar
07-06 10:54 AM
Man, in frustration people do not even know what to say and what not! Be very careful of what you spin and what you say. From the looks of it, this stuff has every chance of spinning out of control and it may have already started the ball rolling.Think about it for a second!. Once it goes that way, trust me, we will all live to regret that.
Yes, DHS approved upwards of 25000 GCs over the weekend, leading up to July 2nd. And some people are pissed off at that, err..why?
Remember, those 25000 are one of us. Once,they too were in line for Labor certifications, I-140s, medical exams and all that crap. And some of them were in the so called "FBI Name check" black-hole for an extended period of time. We should be rejoicing in the fact that most of those backlogs got cleaned up. Instead we have people questioning the validity of those newly approved GCs.My dear friends, god willing, we will all have GCs one day and tell me, how would you feel if someone else comes screaming at you just because he did not get one too.
Putting a "security lapse" spin on this could be very dangerous and should be avoided at any cost. I hope one of those anti-immigrant lobbies do not pick it up and start running with that. I prey that they do not revoke those already approved GCs, because if they do, then those poor 25000 souls will go through much more agony than what we are going through now.
It's very tough to get the genie back in the bottle once it is out, so think before you start popping that cork.
~AMK
Yes, DHS approved upwards of 25000 GCs over the weekend, leading up to July 2nd. And some people are pissed off at that, err..why?
Remember, those 25000 are one of us. Once,they too were in line for Labor certifications, I-140s, medical exams and all that crap. And some of them were in the so called "FBI Name check" black-hole for an extended period of time. We should be rejoicing in the fact that most of those backlogs got cleaned up. Instead we have people questioning the validity of those newly approved GCs.My dear friends, god willing, we will all have GCs one day and tell me, how would you feel if someone else comes screaming at you just because he did not get one too.
Putting a "security lapse" spin on this could be very dangerous and should be avoided at any cost. I hope one of those anti-immigrant lobbies do not pick it up and start running with that. I prey that they do not revoke those already approved GCs, because if they do, then those poor 25000 souls will go through much more agony than what we are going through now.
It's very tough to get the genie back in the bottle once it is out, so think before you start popping that cork.
~AMK
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peyton sawyer
07-23 02:57 AM
i am from asia.. i'll hopefully be working in NY.
thank you for your quick reply.
anyway, my PD is Aug. 2005. when did you send to NVC your updated DS230?
thank you for your quick reply.
anyway, my PD is Aug. 2005. when did you send to NVC your updated DS230?
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texanguy
09-10 11:23 AM
:mad:why did i get a red dot for this post? now i cant access the chat...sucks
you still have till end of this month...
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nlssubbu
08-14 03:04 PM
The following are the reason for Eb3 situation.
Anyone who have 3 year or 4 year degree can apply. So Other country also there is a demand. So it is nearly impossible to get other country quota. For a few thousand green cards atleast 100k persons might have applied till 2008 in EB3. So there is not much chance for improvement. It may move a few months to 2 years in 2009.If some bill is passed then most persons will get relief. But still some chances for recapture bill in house. But the reaction at Senate to be seen. Next year they may give a best attempt for CIR so that Congressmen will get a chance to do overtime also for hot news in Media. As usual CIR is unpredictable at best.
EB3 does not require a 4 year degree. It consists of people helping in cooking, full time baby sitters from third world countries, helpers in grocery stores, farm workers, nurses, etc as well. This is why the participation of EB3 folks here is very less and IV attracts only the technical work force. I would suggest a mass campaign to attract this crowd as well to IV for support. Even if they are brought, due to the low wage rate I do not think how much of contribution that will result for IV.
This is my observation so far.
Anyone who have 3 year or 4 year degree can apply. So Other country also there is a demand. So it is nearly impossible to get other country quota. For a few thousand green cards atleast 100k persons might have applied till 2008 in EB3. So there is not much chance for improvement. It may move a few months to 2 years in 2009.If some bill is passed then most persons will get relief. But still some chances for recapture bill in house. But the reaction at Senate to be seen. Next year they may give a best attempt for CIR so that Congressmen will get a chance to do overtime also for hot news in Media. As usual CIR is unpredictable at best.
EB3 does not require a 4 year degree. It consists of people helping in cooking, full time baby sitters from third world countries, helpers in grocery stores, farm workers, nurses, etc as well. This is why the participation of EB3 folks here is very less and IV attracts only the technical work force. I would suggest a mass campaign to attract this crowd as well to IV for support. Even if they are brought, due to the low wage rate I do not think how much of contribution that will result for IV.
This is my observation so far.
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diptam
08-13 05:19 PM
Everytime i Open IV this Non-value added thread rolls up in the Top.
Why dont you close this - Unnecessary arguments are wasting everyone's Time !!
please direct your energy to more useful directions, volunteer, contribute and join the rally in DC on 9/18. join your state chapters. complete your profile on iv- what's the point of so much smoke and fire when you want to hide from everyone- your profile is not public, but iv needs you. you and i are iv. there is no iv but us. if you believe there is some nebulous entity that will magically solve your problems without your lifting a finger, well that's usually the stuff of dreams- and maybe your GC will arrive tonight with your beauty sleep...
Why dont you close this - Unnecessary arguments are wasting everyone's Time !!
please direct your energy to more useful directions, volunteer, contribute and join the rally in DC on 9/18. join your state chapters. complete your profile on iv- what's the point of so much smoke and fire when you want to hide from everyone- your profile is not public, but iv needs you. you and i are iv. there is no iv but us. if you believe there is some nebulous entity that will magically solve your problems without your lifting a finger, well that's usually the stuff of dreams- and maybe your GC will arrive tonight with your beauty sleep...
pappu
06-10 01:49 PM
The state chapters don't seem to be very effective.
I thought I was a member of the CA chapter but in the last few months I received no information from anybody in this chapter.
I was semi-active, meaning I helped with phone calls, money and prints and that's as much as I could do at this point in time.
And at some point there was a discussion about a new user group of only the people that are active and can contribute and it seems they went through with it.
I understand that some things might be better discussed in a smaller group with the people that can dedicate more time, but there are different levels of commitment and if you're not open and accept that some want to help but can't do as much as others, you're cutting yourself short.
When there is a big initiative or a push for funds and effort, you're not even reaching out to the bigger group; you're relying on the same small number of people and they too have limited resources and energy and will get tired.
Maybe I’m just having a bad day but that was my experience and CA is one of the most active chapters so maybe all is well I’m an isolated case.
Sometimes chapter leaders are unable to communicate the message to members on time or must be busy for their own reasons. We will note your feedback for future. Thanks.
I thought I was a member of the CA chapter but in the last few months I received no information from anybody in this chapter.
I was semi-active, meaning I helped with phone calls, money and prints and that's as much as I could do at this point in time.
And at some point there was a discussion about a new user group of only the people that are active and can contribute and it seems they went through with it.
I understand that some things might be better discussed in a smaller group with the people that can dedicate more time, but there are different levels of commitment and if you're not open and accept that some want to help but can't do as much as others, you're cutting yourself short.
When there is a big initiative or a push for funds and effort, you're not even reaching out to the bigger group; you're relying on the same small number of people and they too have limited resources and energy and will get tired.
Maybe I’m just having a bad day but that was my experience and CA is one of the most active chapters so maybe all is well I’m an isolated case.
Sometimes chapter leaders are unable to communicate the message to members on time or must be busy for their own reasons. We will note your feedback for future. Thanks.
JunRN
09-28 07:34 PM
In , it was mentioned that three weeks ago, there were still 26,000 visas available as per official reply from USCIS to an inquiry. I cannot imagine how USCIS can use up all those in just three weeks. For this reason, I believe that there will be "wild" approvals this weekend.
What makes us mad is by end-June, DOS and USCIS said that no more visas are available and made July VB unavailable. Good that there was reversal of this VB and we're able to apply.
What more can we do but "sigh". Atleast for my case, I will get the interim benefits which I badly need.
What makes us mad is by end-June, DOS and USCIS said that no more visas are available and made July VB unavailable. Good that there was reversal of this VB and we're able to apply.
What more can we do but "sigh". Atleast for my case, I will get the interim benefits which I badly need.
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